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Down & Up Show #52: Veterans with Depression

In this Memorial Day episode, retired Air Force 1st Sgt. Patrick McCathern speaks with Dr. Reef Karim about his experience with depression while in the military. After serving 26 years in the Air Force, Patrick now works to raise awareness about depression in the military and on a national level. He served as a spokesperson for the National Institute of Mental Health's (NIMH) "Real Men. Real Depression" campaign, which launched in April 2003. Patrick continues to speak publicly about depression to reduce stigma, specifically in the military.

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